More than a decade after starting their connection, Ed Sheeran and Taylor Swift are still going strong.

Sheeran, who recently spoke with Zane Lowe on Apple Music 1, revealed how he frequently confides in his old pal about developments in his profession — and his personal.

“I have long, long, long conversations with Taylor about stuff just because I feel like she’s one of the only people that actually truly understands where I’m at,” he explained, “because she’s solo artist, she’s stadiums.”

The “Shape of You” singer revealed that he and the “Anti-Hero” artist spent an hour and 20 minutes catching up before the interview.

“We were just — everything that was on our minds we talked about,” he said. “I mean that in itself is kind of therapy as well because you’re actually talking to someone that genuinely gets it, that has all the things that you feel and have insecurities about and how other people treat you or how your family treats you, how your friends treat you, she’s just basically in the same sphere.”

Sheeran also revealed that fans can thank Swift for many of the tracks on his upcoming album – (pronounced minus). She introduced him to Aaron Dessner from The National while they were working on Red (Taylor’s Version), on which Sheeran collaborated with Swift on two songs, “Run” and “Everything Has Changed.”

“I kind of would keep my distance if there would be a collaborator that she’d be working with closely just because that’s her thing,” Sheeran said, “and I don’t want to be like, ‘Well I’m gonna do that too,’ but … she said, ‘I think it’d be really important for you as an artist to do what I did and work with Aaron because this is what it did for me. And I think you and Aaron should work together.’”

And she was right. Dessner and Sheeran went on to co-create every song on –, which releases May 5.

“That sort of opened the door to it,” Sheeran said. “And I am incredibly grateful. I’m making some of the most meaningful music to me that I’ve made in a very long time. And I was just very wary about treading on to [her work] … and we can be open with each other about that sort of stuff as well.”

The “Perfect” singer was recently ruled not responsible in a copyright infringement lawsuit in New York City. The heirs of songwriter Ed Townsend, who co-wrote Marvin Gaye’s 1970s classic “Let’s Get It On,” claimed that Sheeran copied crucial components of the song when he made his hit “Thinking Out Loud.”

In his interview with Apple Music, Sheeran addressed the subject, claiming he would “never” consider suing another artist. He revealed that he once approached Coldplay’s Chris Martin about a song he was writing for Keith Urban that sounded similar to the band’s “Ever Glow” and asked the frontman to clear it, but Martin responded he didn’t need to since he trusted Sheeran.

“The thing with these cases, it’s not usually songwriters that are suing songwriters,” Sheeran explained. “I mean sometimes it is, but … I feel like in the songwriting community, everyone sort of knows that there’s four chords primarily that are used, and there’s eight notes. And we work with what we’ve got.”